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Cyclone Idai: Death total has increased from over 300 to over 500. NoahTalk 22:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done  — Amakuru (talk) 22:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Replace "24c" with the correct usage "24¢" in both the lead hook and the caption. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Oddly enough, WP:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Currencies and monetary values doesn't seem to cover this. A quick look thru various stamp articles shows "¢" used sometimes, and "c" used sometimes. I guess we should change to match the article? (oh, I see, the article was only changed a few minutes ago.) Pinging @Philafrenzy:. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Better still would be just to write out cents in full, wouldn't it?  — Amakuru (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I really don't know. Mandarax's formulation looks most natural to me, but I'm not a philatelist (or a MOS expert). --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I changed it to 24¢, both the hook and the caption, because that's how it is in the article. — Maile (talk) 19:55, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
That's a little circular; Mandarax changed the article to be that way half an hour ago. I'd still like Philaphrenzy's take; they wrote the article. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
The sources (three separate sites from the same publisher) for it in the article use "24¢". MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Upon reading further, I see that a couple of those sources later also use "24c." or "24c". The general US usage is still "24¢". MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Would be clearer to a broad readership as "24-cent stamps". The cent symbol is not too common anymore. 72.94.18.179 (talk) 20:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I have boldly changed the text as suggested. Happy to be overruled, and will revert myself if requested, but I do think this is the clearest way of representing it. It may be obvious to a US person what ¢, and indeed c, mean... but perhaps less so to an international audience?  — Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
By that logic, shouldn't it be Bank of England 1-pound note, not Bank of England £1 note? Sounds like I'm trying to be snarky, but I'm not, I'm just trying to think this thru. If I was writing this, I would have assumed anyone who knew "$" would know "¢". I am a Yank, and I am old(ish), so maybe the world has changed. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:59, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I think Amakuru has it right on this occasion. Turning it round I would expect most people in the world to know what £24 means, but I would not presume they know 24p. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I don't know to be honest. I am a Brit, and yes I do know what ¢ means, but I would hazard a guess that not everyone does (and it's far less commonly seen than $ anyway). You're right that 1-pound note would be odd, but how about 24-pence stamp... that would be less odd I think. And would you recognise if it were 24p? (The standard notation over here). Or, more obscurely and historically, 4d (the symbol for old pence pre-decimalisation in 1971!) I don't really have a strong opinion about this, so feel free to set it to whatever version you feel is best.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:26, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
@MSGJ: re "Amakuru has it right on this occasion", does that mean I don't usually have things right? Shock, horror! Font Awesome 5 solid surprise.svg  — Amakuru (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I'd have no trouble with 24p, and suspect (but can't prove) that very few people would. (and we still use "d" for nails; 10d is a 10-penny nail) Still, I don't really have a strong opinion either, just trying to think it thru. For someone without an opinion, I've commented too much, so I'll defer to others. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Please update the caption for consistency. Jmar67 (talk) 22:47, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 Done... (and just think, we have the whole of tomorrow to continue thinking and not having strong opinions about all this... the hook isn't due to run until Thursday!)  — Amakuru (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Four gloomy entries - I know it is in the nature of ITN, but ... Jackiespeel (talk) 20:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Jackiespeel The beginning of the year is a slow period as we don't yet have a lot of recurring events(that are usually more positive) for posting; we can only wait for events to happen that merit posting. We can also only consider what is nominated, if you know of articles about more positive events that may merit posting and are covered in the news, feel free to nominate them at WP:ITNC. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
M<ore an observation, as there has not been 'a grouping' for a while, and sometimes it is possible to reorganise what appears.
When was the last time there was a 'too many X (over the last few days) across the MP' comment on this talk page? Jackiespeel (talk) 15:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Here. Art LaPella (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
And the more general 'Woe is Wikipedia -the MP is not 'hot drinks and crumbs near the keyboard and/or the children and/or worksafe'?
Perhaps, as a reasonable compromise - when 'four gloomy ITN entries have been there for several days' something neutral is rotated in - eg [1] (which is on the List of meteor air bursts). Jackiespeel (talk) 19:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
I think you want birds, but I don't get the relevance. Art LaPella (talk) 19:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
There are two points - when to rotate the material at ITN (there are still 'four gloomy stories') and those MPs which contain 'topics which disconcert or cause much discussion' (including 'why have we had X references to (topic) in the last (y) days)? Jackiespeel (talk) 11:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I generally avoid ITN beyond proofreading. Past Main Page discussions of every description can be found in the archives. Anyone else? Art LaPella (talk) 13:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)